0001181: Oscar: Questions... Oscar AGA still has problems with gfx glitches in the

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A1200

CPU

68060

CPUSpeed

ChipSet

AGA

GFXCard

None

ChipMem

2 MB

FastMem

64 MB

Workbench

OS 3.9

KickROM

40 - Kick 3.1

KickSoft

None

WHDLoad

16.5

imported

yes

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Oscar.Slave (1,336 bytes) 2012-02-16 16:33

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note ~0000875 Wepl (manager) 2009-04-30 19:58	maybe I check this some day, but I already worked to much on this in my eyes ugly game...

note ~0002608 Wepl (manager) 2012-02-16 16:30	>BJ> Report: Questions... Oscar AGA still has problems with gfx >BJ> glitches in the underwater level... using OSEmu or fake kickstart in >BJ> a new slave wouldn't be possible to solve all these problems? The >BJ the game doesnt use the os beside allocmem so this would have >BJ absolutely no effect. >BJ> original and the HD-install by Thomas Kessler (but doesn't quit to >BJ> WB) do not show these problems... Or maybe a new slave for the HD >BJ> version by Kessler (it includes password bypass) to make it more >BJ where can I get this? Ask JOTD ;-) http://jffabre.free.fr/amiga/other_loaders/oscarhd.lzx This installers doesn't quit back to WB :-( but removes protection, load the game from HD with best caches even on my 060 and has no gfx bugs in the Horror-Underwater levels... >BJ> simple ;-) Same question for Jim Power: an OSemu version wouldn't >BJ> automatically fix the gfx bug in the 1st level? >BJ I doubt that jimpower uses the os. Ok, I just thought the OSemu mode emulated a clean Amiga reset but that's not the case obviously. It's very hard to fix the technical problem behind gfx error in jim power's very 1st level?

note ~0002609 Wepl (manager) 2012-02-16 16:31	>BJ> >BJ and you are using the latest slave? >BJ> >BJ> version 1.8 (24.02.2001) >BJ> >BJ> >BJ i dont see any glitches. in which level? >BJ> >BJ> Enter 2nd door, Horror level. Go right, to the water below... jump >BJ> in-out for some secs. Sometimes screen flashes. Another thing: go on >BJ> the bottom underwater and leave the sprite there. When you hear the >BJ> breath-bubble-sound the sprite wobbles slightly... >BJ please try attached slave. i have no screen flashes here. but you must >BJ not use CACHE tooltype. Ok, no flashes, but it's quite slow without CACHE with 060. With CACHE it's always silky smooth and sprites and scrolling is refreshed 1\50 sec. Much better. >BJ the sprite wobble is normal i would say, doesnt that happen under jst? Not at all, and not even loading Oscar from floppies... When there is the bubble-breath sound your sprite trembles up'n'down. -- Luca "Hexaä" Longone

note ~0002610 Wepl (manager) 2012-02-16 16:32	Subject: [WHDLoad] Oscar AGA and underwater flickerings Hello, am I the only one to see a gfx bug in Oscar AGA, underwater (horror) level? Don't move your sprite underwater and every time there's the bubble sound Oscar will flicker up&down... Can't see this bug running it from floppy or using the installer by T.Kessler: http://jffabre.free.fr/amiga/other_loaders/oscarhd.lzx

note ~0002881 Hexaae (reporter) 2013-01-05 17:22 Last edited: 2013-01-05 17:30 View 2 revisions	Bug still unsolved. Was present on real A1200 and now on WinUAE... :( When underwater (Horror level), when the bubbles sound occurs, your sprite will tremble up/down with a minimal gfx corruption.

note ~0007370 Wepl (manager) 2019-11-13 11:06	Could you test if this still happens with the updated install?

note ~0007372 Hexaae (reporter) 2019-11-13 13:51	Seems to work fine and I can't see the glitch anymore (WinUAE 4.2.3beta + WHDLoad 18.5). Wepl, just a question about cheats and potential gameplay improvements: Would it be possible to implement 1 hit = death for enemies (it's 3 in the original game)? And maybe add a "no respawn" (or much longer at least) option after you kill them? This game was technically quite cool with crisp gfx and nice AGA effects (water etc.), a real pleasure to see, but gameplay has always been killed by that stupid respawn system and enemies to be hit 3 times to die... Very bad game design ideas that made it boring and uninteresting/frustrating IMHO.

note ~0007374 Wepl (manager) 2019-11-13 15:00	JOTD made the last change to this install. Maybe him. I have not time for that ATM.

note ~0007376 Hexaae (reporter) 2019-11-13 17:15	Argh! I was wrong about the underwater bug with vertical-rattling sprite at bubble sound: With these tootlypes under WinUAE I can't see it: ExecuteStartup= ExecutePostDisk=uae-configuration cachesize 512 immediate_blits true cpu_speed real cpu_compatible true cpu_throttle -200 But is still reproducible using these: ExecuteStartup= ExecutePostDisk=uae-configuration cachesize 0 cpu_compatible false cpu_cycle_exact true immediate_blits false

note ~0008059 JOTD (developer) 2020-04-05 22:00	could it be a blitter error? going to check with WinUAE blitter debug option. Apart from that: the new version of the slave implements the "1 hit kill" on enemies if some option is on. I didn't remove the respawn though. But with this option, the game is already less tedious. Good suggestion! Unrelated: Jim Power graphical glitches are completely unrelated. And game doesn't use the OS. Stingray is having another look right now.

note ~0008060 Hexaae (reporter) 2020-04-05 23:05	Great! If possible would be great the no-respawn option too... ;)

note ~0008073 JOTD (developer) 2020-04-07 16:20 Last edited: 2020-04-07 21:19 View 3 revisions	I can confirm this glitch: when the bubble sound plays, a few horizontal pixels appear and the character "jumps". It's a sprite data issue. The first line is probably the last line of the character or some other irrelevant data. Coupled with the sound replay routine WTF :) The sprite glitch issue even happens on quickstart A500 with ECS version unless "cycle exact (full)" is ticked. It's a beam/sync sprite refresh issue.

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Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
Issue History
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	New Issue
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	Status	new => assigned
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	Assigned To	=> Wepl
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	Machine	=> A1200
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	CPU	=> 68060
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	CPUSpeed	=> 66
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	ChipSet	=> AGA
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	GFXCard	=> None
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	ChipMem	=> 2 MB
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	FastMem	=> 64 MB
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	Workbench	=> OS 3.9
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	KickROM	=> 40 - Kick 3.1
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	KickSoft	=> None
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	WHDLoad	=> 16.5
2009-04-10 00:50	administrator	imported	=> yes
2009-04-30 19:57	Wepl	Priority	normal => low
2009-04-30 19:57	Wepl	Resolution	open => suspended
2009-04-30 19:57	Wepl	Description Updated
2009-04-30 19:58	Wepl	Note Added: 0000875
2012-02-16 16:30	Wepl	Note Added: 0002608
2012-02-16 16:31	Wepl	Note Added: 0002609
2012-02-16 16:32	Wepl	Note Added: 0002610
2012-02-16 16:33	Wepl	File Added: Oscar.Slave
2013-01-05 17:22	Hexaae	Note Added: 0002881
2013-01-05 17:30	Hexaae	Note Edited: 0002881	View Revisions
2019-11-13 11:06	Wepl	Note Added: 0007370
2019-11-13 13:51	Hexaae	Note Added: 0007372
2019-11-13 15:00	Wepl	Note Added: 0007374
2019-11-13 15:00	Wepl	Assigned To	Wepl => JOTD
2019-11-13 15:00	Wepl	Status	assigned => resolved
2019-11-13 15:00	Wepl	Resolution	suspended => fixed
2019-11-13 17:15	Hexaae	Note Added: 0007376
2019-11-13 17:16	Hexaae	Status	resolved => feedback
2019-11-13 17:16	Hexaae	Resolution	fixed => reopened
2020-04-05 22:00	JOTD	Note Added: 0008059
2020-04-05 22:01	JOTD	Status	feedback => acknowledged
2020-04-05 23:05	Hexaae	Note Added: 0008060
2020-04-07 16:20	JOTD	Note Added: 0008073
2020-04-07 18:50	JOTD	Note Edited: 0008073	View Revisions
2020-04-07 18:50	JOTD	Status	acknowledged => confirmed
2020-04-07 21:19	JOTD	Note Edited: 0008073	View Revisions
2020-04-08 17:46	JOTD	Status	confirmed => resolved
2020-04-08 17:46	JOTD	Resolution	reopened => fixed
2020-04-08 17:46	JOTD	Status	resolved => closed

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