0004298: Raw Dic is going till track 2 on installation of disc 1 and says "unknown

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A4000

CPU

68040

CPUSpeed

ChipSet

AGA

GFXCard

None

ChipMem

2 MB

FastMem

16 MB

Workbench

OS 3.1

KickROM

40 - Kick 3.1

KickSoft

40 - Kick 3.1

WHDLoad

18.2

imported

yes

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Manual.zip (4,906 bytes) 2023-06-12 17:01

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note ~0007797 StingRay (developer) 2020-03-03 11:06	Send me your version please.

note ~0012893 christoph gleisberg (reporter) 2023-06-12 13:27	Sorry for the late reply, here are the images: https://kabel-helpdesk.de/amiga_images/batmanthemovie.zip

note ~0012899 retrogamer (reporter) 2023-06-12 17:02	Game manual attatched please include for next update.

note ~0013013 StingRay (developer) 2023-07-07 11:16	Disk 2 is incorrect, it is the cracked version of "Narco Police". Please supply a correct disk 2 image, otherwise I can't support your version.

note ~0013016 Snoopy1234 (reporter) 2023-07-07 13:26	The SPS IPF images for the 2 disk (A500 pack) version are hosted on the Turran FTP server. This is a link to those files from my Onedrive. https://1drv.ms/u/s!AhcDodhmD2NVxAdxl80tcDW-3Htl?e=Vmdj1g

note ~0013017 StingRay (developer) 2023-07-07 13:55	That version is already supported in the patch, I specifically need Christoph's version.

note ~0013025 christoph gleisberg (reporter) 2023-07-08 06:25	Oh my gosh, that's wired. I never used disk 2 - it seems that some kind of fool overwrote it with narc. I reconstructed it now with kryoflux. Here is the whole image: https://www.kabel-helpdesk.de/amiga_images/BatmanTheMovie.zip I hope that Disk 1 isn't a cracked version or something like this. At the moment when the imager runs it says "unknown version" and won't make a image of disk 1.

note ~0013027 Snoopy1234 (reporter) 2023-07-08 07:08	After testing the latest image provided I suggest it is the 1 disk version. There is a post on EAB commenting about the differences in the speed of the "Batarang" throwing on the 1 and 2 disk versions. The original 2 disk version was unproportionally fast and was fixed in the later 1 disk version. This latest upload exhibits the later 1 disk style in AF. This doesn't help the version compatibility though...

note ~0013028 christoph gleisberg (reporter) 2023-07-08 07:19	Thanks for your opinion on that, so I wait for check from Stingray and if he says that you're right I will rewrite original IPF on my Disk1. Have many thanks for your tests :)

note ~0013029 Snoopy1234 (reporter) 2023-07-08 07:49	No worries. for reference note the mention of protection differences between versions in the post. https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=111499&highlight=Batman+disk

note ~0013030 StingRay (developer) 2023-07-08 08:39 Last edited: 2023-07-08 08:40 View 2 revisions	Please leave out any speculation here, it just messes up the tickets with irrelevant and incorrect information, thank you! It is not the 1 disk version (before requesting the correct disk 2 image, I have of course checked the version of the game). Current disk 2 image is OK, I will check if it is really an unsupported version and if so, update the patch.

note ~0013031 StingRay (developer) 2023-07-08 09:08	It's indeed an unsupported version, file sizes differ from SPS 0006, 0019 and 1730 versions. The patch will be updated in due time.

note ~0013056 Denis (reporter) 2023-07-17 12:03	It's very probably the very first retail release, it uses a speedlock instead of a copylock + AmigaDOS. I remember contacting you Sting a long time ago about supporting this version. I have proper disk images if you want them (no IPF, the disk format is unsupported)

note ~0014704 DJ Mike (developer) 2025-11-26 10:10	I have updated the imager to support two more versions including yours, but as the code is different I also need to expand the game patch. That is time consuming due to the use of different exes per level, but I am working on it now. :-)

note ~0014707 DJ Mike (developer) 2025-11-28 09:00	After further investigation, I can't support your 2 disk version unfortunately. The image you've used to reconstruct your 2nd disk is quite obviously not the same as the disk was originally, because one of the files the game looks for when loading level 3 has a different name. If you tried playing your game from disk you would find it breaks/crashes when you get to level 3. :-) If someone else comes forward with this version of the game in future, I can finish adding support, but I will be parking it for now. Also it is probably worth deleting the images of it from the FTP/TOSEC to avoid any confusion, because they won't work: https://ftp2.grandis.nu/turran/FTP/TOSEC%20Updates/2024-05/fix_Commodore%20Amiga%20-%20Games%20-%20[Unofficial%20IPF]/Batman%20-%20The%20Movie%20(1989)(Ocean)(PAL)(Disk%201%20of%202)[alternative%20release].zip https://ftp2.grandis.nu/turran/FTP/TOSEC%20Updates/2024-05/fix_Commodore%20Amiga%20-%20Games%20-%20[Unofficial%20IPF]/Batman%20-%20The%20Movie%20(1989)(Ocean)(PAL)(Disk%202%20of%202)[alternative%20release].zip

note ~0014721 DJ Mike (developer) 2025-12-02 15:15 Last edited: 2025-12-02 16:08 View 3 revisions	I did some further analysis, and it is my firm belief the Quartex crack was based on this version, as the contents of the cracked Disk.1 are identical, save for some bytes in the loader which were (naturally) cracked. Disk 2 of Quartex crack has level 3 with correct filename that Chris' version would also expect. In a nutshell, the very first 2-disk release of the uses filename "BATCAVE IFF" for level 3, and is also notable for having a major bug with highscores where they don't persist between multiple playthroughs of the game. Chris' version/Quartex release uses filename "CAVE IFF" for level 3, and fixes highscores so they are persisted in top of chip memory. These changes also carry over into every 1 disk release that came later. I think the chronology of releases is: - SPS #0006 - Chris' 2-disk version (/Quartex crack) - Non-SPS 1-disk PAL release - SPS #0019 - NTSC release - SPS #1730 (only release to drop the copylock protection - otherwise identical to SPS 19) I am content to support Chris' version by combining his disk 1 with Quartex disk 2. If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will be along to tell me in future but probably not. :)

note ~0014732 DJ Mike (developer) 2025-12-03 09:57 Last edited: 2025-12-03 09:58 View 2 revisions	Conveniently, Chris' two-disk version is identical to the non-SPS one-disk release that followed it. Almost certainly, the devs realised after release that they didn't actually need to use two disks. :)

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Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
Issue History
2019-11-25 11:33	administrator	New Issue
2019-11-25 11:33	administrator	Status	new => assigned
2019-11-25 11:33	administrator	Assigned To	=> StingRay
2020-03-03 11:06	StingRay	Note Added: 0007797
2023-06-12 13:27	christoph gleisberg	Note Added: 0012893
2023-06-12 17:01	retrogamer	File Added: Manual.zip
2023-06-12 17:02	retrogamer	Note Added: 0012899
2023-07-07 11:16	StingRay	Note Added: 0013013
2023-07-07 13:26	Snoopy1234	Note Added: 0013016
2023-07-07 13:55	StingRay	Note Added: 0013017
2023-07-08 06:25	christoph gleisberg	Note Added: 0013025
2023-07-08 07:08	Snoopy1234	Note Added: 0013027
2023-07-08 07:19	christoph gleisberg	Note Added: 0013028
2023-07-08 07:49	Snoopy1234	Note Added: 0013029
2023-07-08 08:39	StingRay	Note Added: 0013030
2023-07-08 08:40	StingRay	Note Edited: 0013030	View Revisions
2023-07-08 09:08	StingRay	Note Added: 0013031
2023-07-17 12:03	Denis	Note Added: 0013056
2025-11-23 14:31	DJ Mike	Assigned To	StingRay => DJ Mike
2025-11-26 10:10	DJ Mike	Note Added: 0014704
2025-11-28 09:00	DJ Mike	Note Added: 0014707
2025-11-28 09:02	DJ Mike	Status	assigned => closed
2025-11-28 09:02	DJ Mike	Resolution	open => not fixable
2025-12-02 15:15	DJ Mike	Note Added: 0014721
2025-12-02 15:16	DJ Mike	Note Edited: 0014721	View Revisions
2025-12-02 16:08	DJ Mike	Note Edited: 0014721	View Revisions
2025-12-03 09:57	DJ Mike	Note Added: 0014732
2025-12-03 09:58	DJ Mike	Note Edited: 0014732	View Revisions

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